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Offline whitey12

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Reply #15 on: 29 Jun 2018, 11:39:06 pm
The clubs should break free and then there is no New York. Etc, very simple bargaining tool.

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Reply #16 on: 30 Jun 2018, 12:52:12 am
As if the RFL are bothered.
Imagine supporting a heartland of RL...left us all to rot.
the only way is up.

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Reply #17 on: 30 Jun 2018, 08:19:31 am
Simple business acumen, you spend more than you earn = going bust!! Absolutely nothing to do with the RFL, Toronto or the non showing supporters.

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Reply #18 on: 30 Jun 2018, 08:41:06 am
We still live the dream when we were knocking on the door of S.L. and getting into finals, attracting top players and crowds of ..sometimes 5000 +....got to keep beleaving..its coming home..its coming  home..sorry...i,m getting carried away with the footie

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Reply #19 on: 30 Jun 2018, 09:45:25 pm
Every club should have the aim of promotion otherwise what’s the point !

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Reply #20 on: 01 Jul 2018, 08:35:56 pm
It’s all down to investors. If someone comes in like what’s happened with Toronto and splashes the cash and brings in quality players you win games and hence attracting more fans. If you don’t have the money it isn’t that easy. It’s one of them catch 22 situations .

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Reply #21 on: 02 Jul 2018, 12:04:31 am
It amazes me how many professional sports clubs can't manage themselves. More staggering is that most have boards full of successful business people . 

They just follow the dream too much.

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Reply #22 on: 02 Jul 2018, 09:13:51 pm
Quote from: whitey12 on 29 Jun 2018, 07:02:41 pm
Neither do Dions and our travellers.

Show me the proof you have regarding our travelling players costing more than locals. I know you have no proof because this you keep stating is, in the words of President Trump, fake news.
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Reply #23 on: 02 Jul 2018, 09:15:44 pm
Quote from: gmc66 on 29 Jun 2018, 07:36:43 pm
totally agree tommygun....barrow very open and honest, pity we seem to be very secretive. still need some honesty to get the floating fans back

Gary, you would have to compare this statement from Barrow with the clubs initial "appeal" release which was just as open and honest as this.
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Reply #24 on: 02 Jul 2018, 09:17:09 pm
Quote from: jammy dodger on 02 Jul 2018, 09:13:51 pm
Quote from: whitey12 on 29 Jun 2018, 07:02:41 pm
Neither do Dions and our travellers.

Show me the proof you have regarding our travelling players costing more than locals. I know you have no proof because this you keep stating is, in the words of President Trump, fake news.

I didn't say they were, I said they weren't cheap.  Dion cost 1000s in flights alone over his visa fiasco.

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Reply #25 on: 02 Jul 2018, 09:18:36 pm
Quote from: 1873 on 02 Jul 2018, 12:04:31 am
It amazes me how many professional sports clubs can't manage themselves. More staggering is that most have boards full of successful business people . 

They just follow the dream too much.

Also most customers/clients of these businesses aren't as fickle as sports fans. Nobody in business is going to dream that there customer base is going to half
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Reply #26 on: 02 Jul 2018, 10:31:23 pm
Well what have been our average gates per game over the last 5 years? Excluding cup or play off games?

I don't think our customer base as halved. Our customer base is what it's always been it's only our fault if it hasn't grown.

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Reply #27 on: 02 Jul 2018, 10:35:30 pm
Quote from: 1873 on 02 Jul 2018, 10:31:23 pm
Well what have been our average gates per game over the last 5 years? Excluding cup or play off games?

I don't think our customer base as halved. Our customer base is what it's always been it's only our fault if it hasn't grown.

Strange statement to make about our customer base being what its always been. a decade ago we would get 1000 on a bad day
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Reply #28 on: 02 Jul 2018, 11:00:21 pm
Pop the facts then, ave. League attendances and please include the division.

2018 so far ...
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Reply #29 on: 02 Jul 2018, 11:04:56 pm
Quote from: 1873 on 02 Jul 2018, 11:00:21 pm
Pop the facts then, ave. League attendances and please include the division.

2018 so far ...
2017
2016
2015
2014
2013
2012
2011
2010
2009

Just so i'm not ignoring your request - but I do not have that info when I'm sat at home. Im sure there is a stats person on here who can answer your question but if not I will at my earliest opportunity.

However I do know that the season we folded/were relegated we had over 1100 at the first game against Toulouse
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