I don't know what Rudd has to do to convince some people. We got 4 tries on Sunday, he put through a delicate kick for the first, put Fletcher through a gap he made for his second and was also involved in the last try. Why are we so intent on knocking our own players, try seeing the positives for a change, its easy to find fault, if you want to find fault with players toddle up to Derwent Park this Sunday and watch that lot, then you may get a sense of perspective as to what we've got here.