Winding up order

[Jaypeet]

Thanks for the link, HW.

Jaypeet, you are right that it is as valid as much of the speculation on the board tonight. But the information given, from BBC Radio Cumbria but via a Tweet, may have originated from anywhere, including possibly the club?

As you are well aware the option often given besides conspiracy is "cock-up" and if it is so then it as cock-up on behalf of those leading the club as much as the administrators office. But perhaps you are right, we should maybe hang-fire until tomorrow when MAYBE more information will be forth-coming from the club. As others have said all this speculation is rife because there is a toal lack of communication from the proposed new board.

Those leading the club and the administrators office are one and the same thing - because the club as we knew it doesn't exist.

The proposed new board have their hands tied to a certain extent with what they can say, without damaging their bid to run the future club - until they legally have control of the new club.  I think Dick has done all he can to confirm that the old club is in administration, because the body currently in charge, the administrators have requested bids to buy whatever is left of the old club as part of the administration process.

[harbouragrudge]

Thanks for the clarification Jaypeet. My mistake, I thought you were trying to deflect blame away from the proposed new board and towards the administrators.

So you are saying that the Raaz consortium failed to put the club into administration by mistake and not intentionally? This is in the light of certain posters on this forum continually warning that the club was not in fact ever in administration, and Dick Raaz's assurance that it is was, on Radio Cumbria at the weekend?

[cbandg01]

So you are saying that the Raaz consortium failed to put the club into administration by mistake and not intentionally?

Harbouragrudge, how do you get that statement from Jaypeats post ? Not having a go, just don't read it that way.

I have obviously lost the knack of reading and reasoning !

[harbouragrudge]

If you read Radio Cumbria Sport Twitter page - "a mistake at the office acting on behalf of the club means the period of administration was never officially declared with the tax office"

So - administrators office cock-up - no more conspiracy theories please.

Hi cbandg, this is the original post.

How would you interpret it?

[henbeckhill]

So that is the administrators name (Sue)

Just to lighten the note, that was good that!

[gibsonspiesandoxo]

maybe if we did have a johnny cash we would not be in this position henbeck hill.

[the spy]

we were not put officaly into administration as any creditors can find out .Its been a balls up.

[whitehavenRLforever]

I think the problem started many years back when we enjoyed success in the 2005/6 seasons. We brought in quality players but at a price. Then we regulary topped 2500+ attendances and on odd occasions 5000+. We couldn't sustain that though but yet rumours of quite a few players still on quite high contracts with barely 500 now coming thru the turnstiles.

As for our current situation I guess its not surprising. It just about sums our season up. Its gone from 1 cock up to another. If it hadn't been for the reserves winning their GF I can't think of 1 thing to smile about this season.

[JAYFORHAVEN]

[harbouragrudge]

I'm sorry but I don't think HMRC are swayed by requests or sentiment.

The clubs first resort should be to establish why, if there was a mix up, the club was not properly regarded as being in administration when it was believed they were / would be. If those acting on behalf of the club could reasonably expect the club to be safe then surely there might be some recourse here?

On the other hand, if it was clear the club was not entering administration, or is there was gross incompetence on "our" behalf then, where is there left to turn?

[haven boys]

So were not in administration and all players are still under contract?? 

[skidaw]

So were not in administration and all players are still under contract?? 

If the players had been paid they would still be under contract. They are free agents due to our fantastic board..

[branstymarra]

All the blame for our prediciment seems to be laid at the door of Dick Raaz. While accepting the fact that he is the Chairman he has relied on other board members for advice and without doubt he has been wrongly advised especially on the Jed Stokes issue.The Sh-t would have hit the fan some time ago had it not been for his cash injection. lets look past DR and fire some bullets at other board members and ask why the tax payment was not seen as a priority earlier.

[ICE]

I'm sorry but I don't think HMRC are swayed by requests or sentiment.

The clubs first resort should be to establish why, if there was a mix up, the club was not properly regarded as being in administration when it was believed they were / would be. If those acting on behalf of the club could reasonably expect the club to be safe then surely there might be some recourse here?

On the other hand, if it was clear the club was not entering administration, or is there was gross incompetence on "our" behalf then, where is there left to turn?
Mr Razz and others picked and chose the date they wanted to enter administration and as you rightly so state HMRC dont have any sentiment they are tasked to collect taxes which are due.It is not up to Mr Razz's lawyer to apply to the court under administration rules it is up to the insolvency practitioner to lodge this application which would afford the protection that Mr Razz required the blame clearly lies at the door of the incompetent board for not instructing the insolvency practitioner to file

[Boxer]

Ice and how do you know the insolvency practionaire wsnt instructed to file?

To many Town fans on here trying to casue problems.  I hope when all this is resolved the true facts can be revealed and the actions of our friends can be revealed.  Absoloutly shocking.