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Offline mygirl

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on: 02 Oct 2010, 12:06:37 pm
Are all the stay away fans from last year now going to cum bak? There r plent of posters on here who deserted the club in it's hour of need last year   R they now willing to support the team club and coach through good times and bad???


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Reply #1 on: 02 Oct 2010, 12:11:42 pm
I think theres alot of posts and new threads that are uncalled for at the minute.

No need to start causing friction and bickering for the sake of it.

Lets move on - We had a positive outcome yesterday and most questions answered that we wanted and needed.

Somethings are still unclear of course but as supporters we need to move the forward again and not back.


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Reply #2 on: 02 Oct 2010, 12:28:41 pm
Are all the stay away fans from last year now going to cum bak? There r plent of posters on here who deserted the club in it's hour of need last year   R they now willing to support the team club and coach through good times and bad???

my stance was against a poor coach, he was relieved of his duties prior to the bately match and true to my word i came back, and enjoyed the performance.

i will also be back in attendence next season, unless the unthinkable happens and HE is re-appointed as coach.
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Reply #3 on: 02 Oct 2010, 12:36:00 pm
But like I say true supporters r there through gud and bad times
surely? Wat if seeds is no good aft 10 games will every1 stop going again? U ask for consistency on the pitch can we also have some consistency with they fans! Thanks for the reply pm Wat bout the rest of the stay aways?


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Reply #4 on: 02 Oct 2010, 12:46:22 pm
But like I say true supporters r there through gud and bad times
surely? Wat if seeds is no good aft 10 games will every1 stop going again? U ask for consistency on the pitch can we also have some consistency with they fans! Thanks for the reply pm Wat bout the rest of the stay aways?

And just what exactly constitutes a "true supporter" in your opinion?   - there are many supporters out there and whatever their level of support is you cannot question their loyalty.  Some cannot go to each and every game due to various reasons - financial, health, family or otherwise.  So questioning their level of support in my opinion, is an insult.

Look at it this way.  If you shop, for example, in Tesco and their service to you as a paying customer is dire, you have staff that don't give a damn and managers who care even less.  Would you continue to go there?  I think not.  If improvements are made, you would go back.

Apply the same principles to the Whitehaven RLFC of the 2010 season.  They were not giving what they were paid to do, entertain us.  So I voted with my feet and decide to stay away until improvements were made.  That was done with the removal of the then coach, I was happy with that improvement so continued my support.

Do not ever question my support for Haven.  I attend when I can and when I want - I will not be called any less of a "true supporter" because I made an informed choice on whether to stay away and get real entertainment for my cash - or go elsewhere where I could be entertained for the money I paid.  Sensible and thrifty if you ask me.

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Reply #5 on: 02 Oct 2010, 12:51:18 pm
And what improvements have been made we are on the verge of appointing a coch with no experiance what so ever? He may be a very good coach but do you stay away until you think you get value for money and entertainment then come back or now that mr stokes has gone do you come back regardless of all that? Garty maybe got it right before but not anti American anti ex town


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Reply #6 on: 02 Oct 2010, 12:51:40 pm
But like I say true supporters r there through gud and bad times
surely? Wat if seeds is no good aft 10 games will every1 stop going again? U ask for consistency on the pitch can we also have some consistency with they fans! Thanks for the reply pm Wat bout the rest of the stay aways?

if seedsy, or whoever, do not get the results then i would expect them to be sacked, as should have happened with the previous "coach" a damn sight earlier than it eventually did happen.

i stopped going the previous season, not just last season, because of HIM not results

again i ask, as i have in the past of people quoting that phrase, please define "a true fan" because i can pretty much guarantee that "a true fan" does not actually exsist.
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Reply #7 on: 02 Oct 2010, 12:52:55 pm
But like I say true supporters r there through gud and bad times
surely? Wat if seeds is no good aft 10 games will every1 stop going again? U ask for consistency on the pitch can we also have some consistency with they fans! Thanks for the reply pm Wat bout the rest of the stay aways?

To be quit honest I watch WRLF for entertainment, much the same as i would go to the cinema or a night club, if the entertainment on offer fails to entertain then i wont go and waste my hard earned money, forget all this "true supporter" rubish, its about a product and if that product is no good then people arent going to pay for it, simple. Would you continue to frequent a night club that played rubish music and had poor facilities, broken toilet seats, crap sound system ? or would you be a "true supporter" of the local night club purely because it is in your town ? would you go to see a movie if it had been slated as rubish ? I dont think so !!!
So all these "true supporters" need to get off their high horses and stop talking rubish !!!


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Reply #8 on: 02 Oct 2010, 01:02:18 pm
The fact that HE is not there was good enough for me.  It was plainly obvious to anyone with any ounce of sense that HE had lost the respect of the players and hence the sharp decline in performance.

We appointed a coach with VAST experience and look where that got us!  Someone, somewhere has to be given a chance.  Just like our previous coach, he was given a chance.  It didn't work out.  How do you know for certain who the coach is?

I am hoping that the team will play for the love of Haven and pride in Haven badge.  It is a new start for everyone out there.  Coaching staff and playing staff (whoever they may be) and I for one are willing to give them a chance.  The previous coach was given chance-a-plenty and it didn't improve and what happened with him was, in my opinion, the correct option.

I certainly am not anti-American (or any other nationality for that fact) and I am certainly not anti-Town (unless they are playing Haven) - I am a rugby league supporter.  I would like to see all three Cumbrian clubs being able to hold their own and do well in their own right.  Whether that will happen or not, remains to be seen.  If any Cumbrian club has aspirations to make it to the top flight, then I can only see one way forward, and that is a Cumbria team and not a Haven, Town or Barrow - not a merger but the birth of a new era - with Haven, Town and Barrow existing in their own right as possible feeder Clubs for a Cumbria Super League Team.  Financially viable?  Well that is for the paying public to decide.

Again - I ask you to define a "true supporter"?


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Reply #9 on: 02 Oct 2010, 01:21:15 pm
A supporter who doesn't spit the dummy out the coach is not sacked as soon as they would like! there is a start for a true supporter means!


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Reply #10 on: 02 Oct 2010, 01:42:33 pm
I didn't spit the dummy deary - I made an informed choice.  No dummy spitting about it.  So for the rest of the definition????


As there is no such thing as a true fan - I think your argument stops here.

As twice I have asked you the definition of the much talked about "true fan" and you were unable to give a credible answer, I will let you ponder your definition and get back to me when a credible and definitive explanation can be provided.

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Reply #11 on: 02 Oct 2010, 02:06:37 pm
I didn't spit the dummy deary - I made an informed choice.  No dummy spitting about it.  So for the rest of the definition????


As there is no such thing as a true fan - I think your argument stops here.

As twice I have asked you the definition of the much talked about "true fan" and you were unable to give a credible answer, I will let you ponder your definition and get back to me when a credible and definitive explanation can be provided.



dont hold your breath MrsHW :tip:
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Reply #12 on: 02 Oct 2010, 02:51:39 pm
I didn't spit the dummy deary - I made an informed choice.  No dummy spitting about it.  So for the rest of the definition????


As there is no such thing as a true fan - I think your argument stops here.

As twice I have asked you the definition of the much talked about "true fan" and you were unable to give a credible answer, I will let you ponder your definition and get back to me when a credible and definitive explanation can be provided.



don't hold your breath MrsHW :tip:
A true fan follows there team through thick and thin. True fans don't hold a gun against the boards head and say I am not giving the club entrance fee because I dint like the coach.
Thats why we went into administration because of all our true so called  fans. 


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Reply #13 on: 02 Oct 2010, 02:56:54 pm
I didn't spit the dummy deary - I made an informed choice.  No dummy spitting about it.  So for the rest of the definition????


As there is no such thing as a true fan - I think your argument stops here.

As twice I have asked you the definition of the much talked about "true fan" and you were unable to give a credible answer, I will let you ponder your definition and get back to me when a credible and definitive explanation can be provided.



don't hold your breath MrsHW :tip:
A true fan follows there team through thick and thin. True fans don't hold a gun against the boards head and say I am not giving the club entrance fee because I dint like the coach.
Thats why we went into administration because of all our true so called  fans.

i dont have a gun.

have you been on holiday this year skiddaw?
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Reply #14 on: 02 Oct 2010, 03:08:32 pm
There isn't such a thing as a true fan only in some people's minds.    Usually those who see themselves as true fans are friends or colleagues or relatives of people concerned with the club such as directors, coaches or players.     True fans are always described thus as long as they follow the "party" line, no matter what, without question.   Some true fans think that way because they go to away matches and feel somewhat superior to those that don't or can't attend away matches.   

In 63 years of following Town I have (just about) been to every ground where they played in the past and as a RL supporter I have even followed England to Oz on tour.   I question many decisions that our board of directors make and don't always agree with their answers and tell them so.    Sadly, through health and age I no longer go to away matches but do attend every home game, bought shares in my club, buy my club lottery tickets every month and half-time draw tickets every match.   I also attend Vice Presidents evenings.

Believe it or not I don't know whether I'm a true fan or not but what I do know is that like everyone who posts on here or follows our game I am a FAN, simple as.
Keith - Haven Legend previously a former Haven Immortal!!!