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on: 05 Aug 2007, 05:28:52 pm
how much did we miss the big fella in the middle today with his tackling and quick play the balls  :'(


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Reply #1 on: 06 Aug 2007, 12:12:58 am
Like they say " you never what you had, till its gone" . For a front rower of his size and having played as many games as he has in his life, for 33 his is one very fit player to miss so few games, also shows his running and tackling technique's are spot on. Something that young players should watch and learn. Some players are prone to injury until they change there natural technique. Haha even a player with chicken legs can survive with a good technique! It is all about learning when to go with or against a tackle and how to position your body, similar to a stuntman learning how to fall the right way to minimise risk of injury.

Hopefully with our new front rower the Bull can play his normal 20/20 game etc. This will make his run ups more affective{gives him back his impact} and make it so the opposition have to have more players marking him, opening more gaps around him.



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Reply #2 on: 06 Aug 2007, 10:33:10 am
As previous post said, Steve Trindall is a class act. He and Fats working together give us the best pair of props in NL1. Now that Baldwin has joined and with Fletch and Jacko, (and now Wright improving) plus the return of Howard Hill and the selection of hookers we have, we should be able to use Leroy and Miller etc to field a formidable pack and bench in coming games.

All we need then is the forwards to perform and backs to respond and 'Bobs your uncle' !!!!! ............Simple really

« Last Edit: 06 Aug 2007, 10:34:53 am by cbandg01 »


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Reply #3 on: 06 Aug 2007, 06:29:29 pm
i dont think we mist bull at all he takes the ball up like a midle aged women doing her shoping thats why he dosent get injured. The reason he has a quick play the ball is because he is already hiting the deck before the defence gets to him we are a loud one quata place and we go with this guy


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Reply #4 on: 06 Aug 2007, 06:56:51 pm
you really are a fool, bull makes 40 plus tackles a game, makes 10 yards every carry and gets a quick play the ball all the time


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Reply #5 on: 06 Aug 2007, 07:40:48 pm
we missed him a lot and his absence proved it yesterday.  POPULARSIDER HOW COME EVERYBODY IS AFOOL APART FROM YOU ???? EVERYONE DESERVES AN OPINION THATS WHAT FORUMS ARE ABOUT
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Reply #6 on: 06 Aug 2007, 08:23:27 pm
you really are a fool, bull makes 40 plus tackles a game, makes 10 yards every carry and gets a quick play the ball all the time

He doesn't make 40 tackles a game though. He made 40 tackles in a game last season and it was quoted by the coach. Most of the time he's the 3rd or 4th man going into tackles mainly because he's the only player in our team who knows how to lie on.


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Reply #7 on: 06 Aug 2007, 08:39:44 pm
Think you will find Bull does 30 to 40 tackles every game.  Very rarely drops the ball and his defence is spot on.


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Reply #8 on: 06 Aug 2007, 08:53:30 pm
Think you will find Bull does 30 to 40 tackles every game.  Very rarely drops the ball and his defence is spot on.

http://www.whitehavenrl.co.uk/fullnews.php?subaction=showfull&id=1179831760&archive=&start_from=&ucat=6&

According to that Champ he was averaging 20 tackles a game after 16 games, still a good workrate but nowhere near the amount quoted by a lot of people. Also according to that he isn't taking that much ball in for a prop if you work it all out.


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Reply #9 on: 06 Aug 2007, 09:15:05 pm
well said champ  ;D


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Reply #10 on: 06 Aug 2007, 09:28:47 pm
he's always third man in he does take the ball up but against decent teams he looks like an old women taking the ball in he must be one of are worst signings in along time maybe since ian develin. I wouldnt mind if he was a local lad but he's are quata player so that means he should be half decent  he hasnt bust one tackle in 2 years never puts big hits in but thats ok because he made 40 tackles in a match i would much rather have some one like dana wilson


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Reply #11 on: 06 Aug 2007, 10:59:25 pm
Few things about league!
I big prop like Bull is played 20min on 20min off. The reason for this is the bigger you are the more recovery time needed to get the impact back. 80min on the field for bull, is like a winger playing 4x 80min games in a day.
Nothing wrong with flopping on as the 3rd man in, if you can get away with it. Slowing the oppositions play the balls down is controlling the game.


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Reply #12 on: 06 Aug 2007, 11:29:32 pm
so cumbria 1 your saying phil sherwin was crap then? phil never broke tackles , never put big hits in, but he made 40 tackles a game


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Reply #13 on: 07 Aug 2007, 09:05:44 am
Suggest Cumbria1 reads Dick Huddarts piece in the Whitehaven News last week.

Huddart is widely recognized as one of the greatest pack players in the game, but by his own recognition he was a line buster, not a tackler.

Different pack members have different attributes, no forwards put in 40 tackles per game, bust the line regularly, offload at will, play the ball at speed, support half breaks etc. etc.

Bull executes his role in the pack very well indeed. For example his carry the balls may not be regular line busters, but he doesn't half pull in the defensive tacklers being such a big man AND he carries the ball in so often during a game that he is an absolute nightmare for the opposition defense, sapping their energy throughout the game. Bull is an excellent example of a prop doing what he does very well.........carry in, tackle, play the ball at speed, back up and draw in tacklers / draw down opposition energy.





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Reply #14 on: 07 Aug 2007, 09:16:21 am
Bull has been excellent for Haven this year, perhaps we didn't realise how much of a contribution he made, until he was missing on Sunday.

Any news on whether he will be playing on Thursday? Really need him back for that game if we are to stand a chance, somehow Baldwin doesn't quite worry other teams as much.